Talk:Nigger

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This article is POV because it states that it should no longer be used. this article is much more offensive than the full english version of the article. it's simplified to the point of being patronizing, . Delete this

It exists on the English Wikipedia, so it should (eventually) exist here also. Please feel free to edit it, but I for one won't delete the present version, since it is non-derogatory. -- Netoholic @ 06:32, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

This is very POV. User:24/s 14:10, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

A television thief? This is very derogatory. It should be deleted or modified.

I agree that this article is slanted as making the word "Nigger" apply only to those of African origin, and are not of Caucasian descent. "Nigger" does not necessarily mean a black person specifically, for it could also mean an ignorant person, as is stated by many inviduals who are not racist, some of who are even of African descent.

Nigger is not a color. BELLIGERENT16887 (talk) 07:13, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove incorrect Hebrew interwiki

After a debate at the Hebrew Wikipedia it was decided that he:כושי is NOT the correct interwiki for Nigger. Please remove the Hebrew interwiki, Thank you. 217.132.165.135 04:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. Thank you for notifying us. Cheers, Tangotango (talk) 05:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was unfortunately re-added, probably due to bot activity. We are now removing these links from all languages to avoid this from happenning again, so please remove again, hopefully we removed all occurences. Thanks! Odedee 04:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Protection

If somebody vandalizes this tomorrow, I propose indefinite silver-lock. This is a topic we can't afford to have vandalized at any time--what with its connotations for hate speech Purplebackpackonthetrail (talk) 02:40, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. That's why I semi-protected it. --Bsadowski1^{(Talk|Changes)} 02:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see it was vandalized, and indefinitely silver-locked. Good Purplebackpackonthetrail (talk) 14:38, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Err, whut? 4 strikes in a day does not constitute an indef semi-protection ever. Prior to this it was edited in November, and that was not a vandal. In order for a page to be indef semi'd it should be recieving multiple instances of vandalism from multiple users every day, not one IP on one day. I strongly suggest this is removed before I bring this up to the wider community's attention. Gob lin 14:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC) I ♥ GoblinBots![reply]

Furthermore, this is an incorrect usage of the "Protect" tool. The tool is supposed to be preventative, not punative, which in this instance it is. Block the editor, not the page. Gob lin 14:44, 4 January 2010 (UTC) I ♥ Nifky![reply]

Goblin, there's a specific reason why I'm concerned about vandalism on this page, and therefore want it indef silver-locked. This is an especially controversal page, and vandalism on this page isn't just run-of-the mill gobbeldegook, it's hate speech. The community should want to prevent that kind of speech from happening on this page Purplebackpackonthetrail (talk) 16:50, 4 January 2010 (UTC)(aka PBP89)[reply]

However, such reasoning goes against the entire ethos of Wikipedia and is against the useage of the Protect tool. There is not sufficient vandalism of this page to warrant a protection - indefinite or otherwise - and the protection tool is preventative, not punative, as I said above. There are plenty of other controversial pages both here and at en that aren't indef semi'd - why should this be different? Furthermore, none of the vandalism can really be called "hate speech" - it is very much your run-of-the-mill vandalism - sad people with nothing better to do. I've seen plenty of "nigger" vandalism on other pages too, not to mention vandalism worse than this. This is completely uneeded, and I will now be bringing this up at the AN. Ta, Gob lin 16:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC) I ♥ Juliancolton![reply]

Could we settle for something like, 1 week for the protection? - indef protection is warranted almost never; given this originates from a few IPs blocking those is probably better. And please note: we do have a few "highly-controversial" pages that are fully unprotected (and get protected for a few hours at intervals). --Eptalon (talk) 18:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:AN, though at this point even a week's protection would be inappropriate. Gob lin 18:56, 4 January 2010 (UTC) I ♥ Fr33kman![reply]

Review

Hi! I'd like to request that somebody would review my changes to the article, and attempt to improve on them when and where if possible. I mostly did this out of the need for simplification into Simple English terminology, yet I do believe a few bits and pieces still can be cleaned up. Thanks! --206.180.116.2 (talk) 19:47, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Images...

Hello, I fainlty remember this page having an image (of Mark Twain, 'Mister Bradish Nigger'). At that time, the word simply meant 'black person', and didn't yet have its current meaning. The Enwp also has some images. I'd therefore sugest we look at placing at least one image on the page.

Why the nigger isn't fit to vote, US presidential elections, 1860s, I think (1)
Mr Bradish Nigger, illustration from a work by Mark Twain, 1880s (2)
Nigger in the woodpile, 1860s; this illustrates a figure of speech, and is probably worse than the others (3)
Graffitti in Hebron, of 2002, 'Die Arab Sand-Niggers'. Besides being clearly racist, this picture has the other problem of using Nigger figuratively (The Arabs are not niggers...) (4)

There may be other pictures. Please propose at least one of the 4 (all in the EnWP version as well), or make a better suggestion. Images 1 and 4 are in my opinion clearly racist, image 3 has the problem of using a 'figure of speech', which isn't necessarily related to Niggers (as in: black people). If therer are better ones, please suggest them. --Eptalon (talk) 09:00, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to add that this also used to refer to many black things such as animals. 184.19.98.82 (talk) 21:53, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pop Culture

This article should simply say:

An extensive list of the term nigger in music alone would be far outside the scope of Wikipedia. A51.archaeologist (talk) 22:17, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure whether I understand you correctly (there seems to be something missing after the colon), but I just shortened that list, because it's far too extensive. Rsk6400 (talk) 07:58, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting page protection

Reason: Persistent IP address block evasion and edit war. Kaseng55 (talk) 21:18, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Page semi-protected

During the last few months, we have frequently seen that (mostly IP users) used this page to introduce racist, or derogatory speech. For this reason, I have semi-protected the page (for 3 monhs). If you are an IP user, or a non-autoconfirmed one, and want a change to be made to this page, please discuss it on this talk page. An autoconfirmed editor can then make the change, once the community agrees it is a good one. Eptalon (talk) 08:31, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

the difference is where you're from when you say nigger

same word. different dialect. lol 2601:C2:1180:6280:490C:5828:CA31:24F7 (talk) 22:44, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]