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My beliefs
[change source]Strongly belive that rise against should say that rise against is a Chicago based - punk rock band--Smash mouth 91 (talk) 21:00, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- I don't care what you believe. You must give a reliable source that supports this. Chenzw Talk 02:03, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Is ChenzwBot open source?
[change source]Krett12 (talk) 16:43, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Source code is available. Please send me an email. Please note that the bot depends on the revscoring library for a significant part of its functionality, and that I will not be able to help you with setting up the bot on your own wiki(s). Chenzw Talk 02:41, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Changes this week
- The history page can tell you if a page on your watchlist was updated since you last visited it. This now works the same way in Vector as in other skins. The change broke local designs on some wikis. This will be fixed this week. [3]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 June. It will be on all wikis from 9 June (calendar).
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20:51, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
FYI
[change source]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Supreme_Genghis_Khan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:84:4601:d750:1199:a66c:1be3:4412 (talk • contribs)
Bot Glitches
[change source]Hello, your bot keeps repeating actions already taken out by humans. I'm not quite sure what's up with this, but I do know that it happened on World War I, its vandal's talk page, and the VIP page. Krett12 (talk) 05:23, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
- This is not a glitch. If you look closely at the revision history for World War I, the bot reverted this edit at 05:17 UTC, and warned the user correctly with a level 4 warning. You were the one who was late to the revert, and only reverted the edits at 05:18 UTC.
- Duplicate reports at WP:VIP are normal, and sometimes even expected. That is why there is a separate "bot-reported" section on VIP, which, by the way, you should not be interfering with. Chenzw Talk 05:47, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
- For that matter, why are you repeating actions on User talk:203.14.52.146? A "last warning" is not meant to be used twice in 2 minutes. Chenzw Talk 05:50, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
- Special:Diff/5416504 Krett12 (talk) 15:16, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, you must mean this. Ah, I see. When I loaded the page the first time, there was no warning. I picked it out from the menu, then when I loaded the second time, there were two. It must have just sent it between the two page loads (because they don't auto-update) Krett12 (talk) 15:19, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- Special:Diff/5416504 Krett12 (talk) 15:16, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- For that matter, why are you repeating actions on User talk:203.14.52.146? A "last warning" is not meant to be used twice in 2 minutes. Chenzw Talk 05:50, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
ChenzwBot false positive
[change source]Here is the change that the bot reverted. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:30, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- I too saw a false positive here. Computer Fizz (talk) 21:59, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks! I have added both diffs to the bot's database. Chenzw Talk 02:31, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- The bot has a database? I thought it looked for things like "poop" in edit diffs. Computer Fizz (talk) 02:36, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- It does not. Similarly to ClueBot NG, the bot learns from edits pre-classified as good/vandalism. Chenzw Talk 02:42, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- I could swear I saw you say that, but you would probably know more about your own bot than me. Computer Fizz (talk) 02:47, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- It does not. Similarly to ClueBot NG, the bot learns from edits pre-classified as good/vandalism. Chenzw Talk 02:42, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- The bot has a database? I thought it looked for things like "poop" in edit diffs. Computer Fizz (talk) 02:36, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks! I have added both diffs to the bot's database. Chenzw Talk 02:31, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
I have evidence
[change source]I have evidence
- Evidence of what? Computer Fizz (talk) 02:36, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Sort of offtopic, but....
[change source]I've always wondered, is whether your sig red or green random, or is there a way of knowing? Computer Fizz (talk) 14:35, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Take the total number of edits made on this wiki and divide the number by 5. The colour changes depending on the value of the remainder. That's roughly what my signature's wikicode does. Chenzw Talk 14:40, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, that's pretty cool. Computer Fizz (talk) 14:42, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Question and help
[change source]Hello. Not sure what has really happened but I', not 100% sure if you have been getting my emails at all buuuuuuuuut I have tried to request an account on Simple Wikipedia but the form online thing does not seem to work properly so I thought I'd come straight to you to ask if that was ok?
Obviously I don't have one hence this will be signed by an anonymous IP. And please don't just go ahead and block that as then that means I'd have no way of seeking your valued assistance.
89.243.33.153 (talk) 17:54, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- This Wikipedia does not have any form for you to "request" an account. Accounts must be created by users themselves, and even if such a request facility is available, you are not likely to get an account. What I said previously applies. Chenzw Talk 01:19, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- The link entitled "previously" is dead and does not show anything. Please, be a decent human being.
If you had a reason for not doing it that's fine. I just thought you might have forgotten :) Computer Fizz (talk) 05:53, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- It is not a requirement for blocked users to get a block notice. In some cases, leaving more messages than necessary gives disruptive users the attention that some crave for, and may motivate them to cause further disruption. See en:WP:DENY for a summary of the reasoning behind this. Chenzw Talk 06:09, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- So, despite this explanation from Chenzw, you still find it fit to question admins not giving block notices at WP:AN not even a full 24 hours later? I'm really wondering what you learned during your block, because it's looking like you're headed down the same road that resulted in the previous block here and the still existing indefinite English Wikipedia block. Only (talk) 02:50, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- When have you ever *not* objected to everything I do? Computer Fizz (talk) 04:01, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- I have also mentioned it before: it is not a requirement for blocked users to get a blocked notice. Administrators use their own discretion in this issue. If no block notice is given, it is presumed that no block notice is needed. I also object to your edit on AN. It was unnecessary. If you have a problem with Only, and think that he has a bias against you, by all means, bring that up on this page, and not on my talk page. Chenzw Talk 04:58, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- When have you ever *not* objected to everything I do? Computer Fizz (talk) 04:01, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- So, despite this explanation from Chenzw, you still find it fit to question admins not giving block notices at WP:AN not even a full 24 hours later? I'm really wondering what you learned during your block, because it's looking like you're headed down the same road that resulted in the previous block here and the still existing indefinite English Wikipedia block. Only (talk) 02:50, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Wikimedia wikis now use AuthManager. If you have new problems related to logging in or being logged in, report them. [4]
- Visiting Special:Notifications doesn't automatically mark notifications as read anymore. You can go between read, unread or all notifications on Special:Notifications. Notifications on Special:Notifications are grouped by day. You can mark every daily group as read individually. Notifications are displayed by groups of 50 on Special:Notifications and you can find former notifications by using navigation arrows. [5][6][7][8]
Changes this week
- You can filter user contributions to hide minor edits. [9]
- It will be easier to edit galleries with the visual editor. [10]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 June. It will be on all wikis from 16 June (calendar).
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18:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 05 June 2016
[change source]
- News and notes: WMF cuts budget for 2016-17 as scope tightens
- Featured content: Overwhelmed ... by pictures
- Traffic report: Pop goes the culture, again.
- Arbitration report: ArbCom case "Gamaliel and others" concludes
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Video Games
The Signpost: 15 June 2016
[change source]- News and notes: Clarifications on status and compensation of outgoing executive directors Sue Gardner and Lila Tretikov
- Special report: Wikiversity Journal—A new user group
- In the media: Biography disputes; Craig Newmark donation; PR editing
- Featured content: From the crème de la crème
- Traffic report: Another one with sports; Knockout, brief candle
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Notifications were not always marked as read when you followed a link from an email notification. This will now happen. [11]
Changes this week
- The list of other languages an article is available in will be shorter on small Wikipedias and non-Wikipedia projects. This is to make it easier to find the most relevant languages for each user. You will still be able to see the other languages. [12][13]
- Alerts (the red badge) will not be automatically marked as read when you open the Notifications popup. [14]
- When you get several thanks you can see them as one notification. This is instead of one notification for each thanks. [15]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 June. It will be on all wikis from 23 June (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is develop Markdown support strategy for MediaWiki. The meeting will be on 22 June at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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19:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The ORES service has now moved to a new location. This should make it easier to use ORES. The ORES review service is now available as a beta feature on Wikidata and Persian Wikipedia. ORES is an artificial intelligence system for Wikimedia wikis to help editors. [16]
- The order of wikis in collapsed cross-wiki notifications was different than when the list was expanded. This is now fixed. [17]
- A new category for tracking pages with math errors was added: Category:Pages with math errors. [18]
Problems
- The Wikimedia Etherpad crashed on June 23. Some edits done that day have been lost. They can be found at etherpad-restore.wikimedia.org for another few days. [19][20]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 June. It will be on all wikis from 30 June (calendar).
- The way to mark notifications as read or unread will be changed to be more clear. [21]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Collaboration team at the Wikimedia Foundation will look at developing better tools for edit review. This is because research suggests we scare away newcomers who want to help. [22]
- An e-mail from the Editing Department explains the technical work that is planned and being researched for the future. Items include better wikitext and visual editing, prompts for edits, language improvements, annotations, and meta-data separation. [23]
- The sorting of Notifications into the two fly-out menus is going to change on July 5 to 7. Bundled notifications should be easier to explore and mark as read individually. [24][25][26]
- From 29 June git.wikimedia.org (running Gitblit) will redirect all requests to Phabricator. The vast majority of requests should be correctly redirected. [27]
- Catalan and Polish Wikipedias will have Wikidata descriptions added to articles in the mobile view by default. This is currently a beta option for the mobile versions. This might come to other wikis later. [28]
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15:42, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
ChenzwBot question
[change source]If I remember correctly, when ChenzwBot reverts a change, then the next change to the page is vandalism, ChenzwBot won't re-revert, presumably on the theory that a human may have deliberately overridden the bot. Is that right? If so, does the bot still see that the later change was vandalism and log it somewhere? I can see it being helpful if we could review such a log to catch cases where the later change was also vandalism. What do you think? --Auntof6 (talk) 05:07, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, and yes; currently when the bot catches them, the edits are logged internally (along with all the other normally reverted vandalism diffs), and announced in #cvn-simplewikis. The channel can be quite noisy with other bot chatter though, and not everyone uses IRC, so I think this would be useful, especially when dealing with cases of vandalism from schools. Were you thinking of logging it to a page on-wiki? I can do that, though it may take a few weeks for me to add this to the code (not as free these days). Chenzw Talk 08:46, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes, I was thinking on-wiki. If you could do that, it would be helpful, especially if the log indicated which were the cases where the bot recognized vandalism but decided not to revert. There's no hurry, though. --Auntof6 (talk) 12:22, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
IRC
[change source]Hey just pinged you on IRC. If you're around, I'm there too! eurodyne (talk) 16:50, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
User:43?9enter
[change source]I was going to do it but thanks for reverting! Thanks! --LaurenCox600 (chat me here!) 03:22, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
73.84.220.48
[change source]Thanks Chenzw for blocking that IP good riddance he is going away from me. --LaurenCox600 (chat me here!) 03:31, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Was that a screwed up greeting? How do I really chat on wiki?
[change source]I really am sorry to Chenzw and Lauren. Got off on the wrong foot. Is there any chance you can unblock me? I will give you my identity, and my age, only in exchange for a political discussion, some things about yourselves, and why in the name of the lord you support 43?9enter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:582:4406:7060:b992:95c4:6b45:e0e5 (talk • contribs)
- This is not a place for chatting nor political discussion. Go somewhere else. Chenzw Talk 03:40, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Chenzw, tell that also to 73.84.220.48 on their talk page. Thanks for blocking that IP it vandalized my talk page mentioning to me about little politics (see here: [29]). By the way Chenzw, I don't really care much about politics, other than me supporting Bernie Sanders. 2601:582:4406:7060:b992:95c4:6b45:e0e5, you shouldn't tell personal information here. --LaurenCox600 (chat me here!) 03:49, 29 June 2016 (UTC)