Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Current issues and requests archive 61

Username Violation

User:The Real Khabar Username matches a news website; username appears to represent company PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 17:31, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Direct copy by IP from en to sim

User Talk:78.147.221.239 is directly copying numerous articles from en to sim without any attribution simplification or even cleaning them up some. I have notified them with helpful advice, however, they are not responding in the fashion they should as they are still doing it. At this point I am not sure what to do besides going and tagging them all QD for either copyright or from another project. Can an admin please advise me? The articles are 96% to 100% matches. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 21:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

I nominated some of his articles for QD. One of them is Tournament of Elements. Animalguy7 (talk) 21:37, 3 June 2021 (UTC).

I think we need a mass deletion. I have tagged a lot of his articles with QD tags and it is getting monotonous. Animalguy7 (talk) 21:43, 3 June 2021 (UTC).

@Animalguy7 Sorry just catching up. Yeah, just let them go and await an admin. They have tools that one or two clicks and they are all gone. I wouldn't waste your time because the user is not caring. I also tagged them at VIP just now. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 21:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: Thanks. Animalguy7 (talk) 21:53, 3 June 2021 (UTC).

yuppers PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 21:54, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi Protection of Wikipedia:Notability

Hello. On the wikipedia policy about notability there as been a lot of vandalism. A bunch of IPs are adding notability tags to it and changing the template "nutshell" to "nutcracker". Many of them have been blocked for long-term abuse and block evasion, but the long-term abuse user keeps hopping onto different IPs. I suggest indef semi protection so all these abusive IPs can't edit the page. Thanks, Animalguy7 (talk) 01:02, 5 June 2021 (UTC).

Just a thought, an admin may still decide to protect, but it's a relatively low number of edits probably from the same person on different IPs. Makes me think protecting the page will just move their vandalism to another page. It's probably less about the page itself and more about just messing with us. Continuing to block is probably the more effective solution. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 05:42, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done Yeah, we try to protect only when the amount of vandalism is hard to keep up with. This is not at that level. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:48, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Auntof6 - I noticed you did put a SP on that page, however, it expired on the 6th of this month. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 17:03, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: Look again. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:31, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you ma'am! Why don't we do that to all of our policy and guideline pages? PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 20:33, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: On Wikipedia, protection is seen as a last resort; as little as possible should be protected. I try to look at it as a necessary evil. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:40, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Okies. That is one way to put it. Watching everything going on simple is def GIGO. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 20:41, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Possible global lock evasion

There is a global lock on a user who keeps creating the Muhammad Zaid article. I started researching this and found the global sock leads back to en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Zaid_Zayd/Archive. I have seen this article has been created by the same globally blocked user. It was created again today by Logogresta (not tagging user at this point). They also created Mahmood Ul Hassan (I put in for an RfD but based on what I see on EN wiki, this is indeed a fictitious person, so I am going to QD instead.) Based on the history of the globally locked and en wiki 100 sock puppets, I am assuming this is the same person. Here is the global information on the locked account. They show this as a spam only account. I am wondering:

1. What do others think?
2. Should I do a global request for checkuser?
3. Can we temporarily block the user?
   

Thanks in advance for giving me thoughts, PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 17:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

 Global lock(s) requested: User CU blocked on en-wiki. Darubrub (Let me know) 13:34, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Open Proxy

• 5.188.213.88
• 51.254.16.112
  • Not a proxy - 88.105.95.54

88.105.95.54 - Constant edit war to insert ethos-nationalist views. However, the ones that are proxies are supporting the non-proxies ethos-nationalist views. Thanks, PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 16:47, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

 Comment: I have put in a request on Meta/Stewards for a global block on the two open proxies. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 17:04, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

SP for Cheese

Due to an ongoing edit war with numerous IPs, can we SP Cheese please? PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 19:27, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Warning Templates

For some reason, when I posted a mos warning level 1 on a users talk page, the page name in the warning was malformed. It displayed on the warning as {{:Leonardo da Vinci}} instead of just Leonardo da Vinci. Can an admin go through the templates please and ensure they are correctly formatted? I am not sure what to do with them or the coding behind them (yet). Thank you so much. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 00:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: Can you help us out and link to the page with the specific problem so we can get an idea of what to look for? And besides that, are all those templates protected? Does it really need an admin to do this? --Auntof6 (talk) 01:18, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6 I put it here so anyone can help rather than on simple talk where it will get more visibility from everyone which could lead to further problems. I wish they were protected as I have run into this problem on numerous occasions. The page I put the warning on is original formatting --> https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bizarreeditor&oldid=7600471 and the after my manual change https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bizarreeditor&oldid=7600472. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 01:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: Well, please post things here only for things that require an admin. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:25, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok It is my hope you would protect these (or even SP) as they do see some vandalism (maybe not much) but people go and change them and then this happens. Most edits I see are from IP editors for ones I have found because they come up in huggle. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 01:27, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Replace user page

Could an admin replace User:Russavia and User talk:Russavia with {{WMF-legal banned user}}? These pages are currently sysop-protected. Thanks. --Ferien (talk) 18:27, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Any particular reason you think we should switch away from the exact code the WMF placed on their pages? (and I realize its essentially the same thing) -Djsasso (talk) 02:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Also, I think people are spending too much time and effort flagging user and user talk pages this way. The pages don't have to be flagged at all. Admins, stewards, etc. will decide if they need flagging; other users can just leave the pages alone so they don't "rub salt in the wound". --Auntof6 (talk) 02:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Yep this is very true, non-admins shouldn't really be adding any templated flags like sockpuppet etc to pages of already blocked sockpuppets. Often such things are left off by admins on purpose. -Djsasso (talk) 02:45, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

The logo used in WMF-banned notices has changed to a black Wikimedia logo. And also it adds the page to the correct category Category:Wikipedians banned by the Wikimedia Foundation. I agree, I don't think that we should spend time sock tagging. The reason I requested this here was just to fix the issues. --Ferien (talk) 15:48, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done but I wouldn't worry too much about changing such things. -Djsasso (talk) 20:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Page Delete

The article was deleted, the talk page was not. The user who created it is globally locked. Page is Talk:Nima_Owji_(Developer). Thank you. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 21:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

I nominated it for QD with G8 criteria. Animalguy7 ("Message me! · What have I done?) 21:44, 8 June 2021 (UTC).

Fake/Non-notable article IP editor.

User:27.109.115.155 User:27.109.115.158 These accounts (probably socks of the same vandal) are dedicated to creating hoax/non-notable articles. This has been going on for quite some time, so it's an LTA problem now. I'm requesting a block. Etoza (?) 09:43, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

.158 - Blocked for one week on June 9 by Peterdownunder; .155 blocked for 2 weeks by Macdonald-ross. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 18:44, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Spam articles

I'd recommend blocking the Farhan Rana Rajpoot Youtube title (I forgot the actual name for this process, I hope it's understandable) since it's getting recreated by the same editor over and over (one copy was already deleted today). Etoza (?) 16:38, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done Operator873 ^connect 16:41, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Deletion request

Hi. Could you please delete this page‎ as the creator keeps on removing the QD template? The page has been deleted several times at QD and a couple at RfD. Thanks! --Ferien (talk) 17:19, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done by Macdonald-ross, thanks! --Ferien (talk) 19:34, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Temp SP Please

As I am doing major changes to the article Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany I would like to request temporary semi for a couple of days. While working on it, an IP vandalized it 3 times, including one blanking. This will help me so I do not have to stop and revert it back. I would appreciate it very much. 2 or 3 days is fine with me. I plan on being done tomorrow but may go until Saturday. Thanks. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 18:43, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

We generally don't protect for very low amounts of vandalism like this. -Djsasso (talk) 02:25, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

And you can always copy it to a sandbox to work on. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:40, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Not allowed access

No one I allowed access to data files pictures messages changing accounts passwords passcodes are anything that has to do with owners privacy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nolovejoe44 (talk • contribs) 23:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Jimmy Hibbert page semi-protection required

Jimmy Hibbert has been subject for months to two warring IPs attempting to add conflicting dates of birth without any citations to a reliable source. There are zero reliable sources for a date of birth for this person (I have checked extensively) and this is a biography of a living person. The IMDB bio, which is not a reliable source, actually contains both conflicting DoBs. The IPs even remove "citation needed" tags. This article should be protected from IP editing ideally for the foreseeable future. The IPs have pulled the same thing on the English WP article which is now configured to allow only autoconfirmed registered users. Voceditenore (talk) 09:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done Page protection (semi- or otherwise) is usually called for only when the amount of vandalism is hard to keep up with. That isn't the case here, so I'm not going to protect. I have added the page to my watchlist so I can help watch for future vandalism. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:14, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Auntof6. The thing to watch out for is not strictly vandalism. It is the repeated addition of various conflicting dates of birth (e.g. 25 Nov. 1955, 23 Nov. 1956, and 25 July 1955) none of which have a reliable source. Nor can a reliable source be found. I have now removed the latest addition. Voceditenore (talk) 09:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia as autobiography-in-real-time

Shariful Islam Naik is writing his own article in lieu of becoming notable in real life. All the "sources" are self-generated by the article's subject/author. I have tagged for speedy deletion. GPinkerton (talk) 05:50, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Strange RfD

Hi! Please review this RfD because something is very fishy there: it was closed by a fresh account, I kinda suspect sockpuppetry per PotsdamLamb's comment @wikidata. Thanks in advance! Bencemac (talk) 08:14, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

@Bencemac: Thanks for the note. I have undone the non-admin closure and left a message on the user's talk page. Even if it's not a sockpuppet, non-admin closures should be done only when there are no votes to delete. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:32, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Request for protection

My user sandbox User:Haoreima/sandbox has been vandalized multiple times by anonymous. Please protect my sandbox page so that anonymous and user of less than 10 edits couldn't perform edit. Haoreima (talk) 12:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done It hasn't been vandalized very many times, but I've protected it because it's in your userspace. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

open Virtual Private Network

https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Simple_talk&oldid=7626640#Open_proxies --122.155.174.77 (talk) 00:54, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Files brought over from Commons

Someone has brought over one or more files from Common to this wiki without any commentary: eg: File:2005-malabar-parkeet-p.jpg

As I can't delete it, I'm unsure of what action to take. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:26, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

(Non-administrator observation) @Macdonald-ross: all photos from Commons are automatically here. If you go to a random file on commons and then replace "commons.wikimedia.org" with "simple.wikipedia.org", you'll notice every file is transcluded from Commons to here. These are all the files that have been uploaded to this wiki. --Ferien (talk) 06:31, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Macdonald-ross: If you look at a file and see a tab at the top that says " View on Wikimedia Commons", then the file is not hosted here. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Possible IP sock.

I noticed an IP editor User:82.132.184.83, which struck me as his edits are similar to the blocked User:82.219.17.65. Both did nonproductive edits, which got reverted, and then did a serious one. Both did edits on British (England) towns related to Yorkshire. The blocked account did edits on Todmorden, which is in West Yorkshire, while the non-blocked one did Doncaster, which is in South Yorkshire. Any thoughts? Etoza (?) 22:56, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Main page

Just a heads up, looks like the main page is broken. The selected articles section just shows a red link. Looks like it was deleted and not changed, perhaps. An admin will need to update. Thanks. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 02:19, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Seconded. GPinkerton (talk) 18:51, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

(Non-administrator observation) @Gordonrox24 and GPinkerton: What seems to have happened is Anna Kournikova was demoted to a regular article and therefore Wikipedia:Very good articles/Anna Kournikova was deleted by Eptalon. Auntof6 deleted the redirect to that page – which is the Main Page/Article 9 we can currently see on the main page. No administrator moved a selected page for 9 and therefore we have no article for today. Main Page/Article 10, Main Page/Article 12 and Main Page/Article 13 have also been deleted and I believe we go through very good articles in a consecutive order, so this will be an issue tomorrow and next week too. --Ferien (talk) 19:07, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Fixed, yeah we usually move articles to fill the gap when this happens. For some reason this time I started moving them all down instead of just moving the highest number to the gap. Apparently I wanted to make extra work for myself. -Djsasso (talk) 12:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!--Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 20:59, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protection request

Please semi-protect Word_processor as LTA GRP vandalism. Thanks. --SCP-2000 (talk) 08:47, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

(Non-administrator observation)  Done by Chenzw --Ferien (talk) 14:24, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Superman

Please can an administrator semi-protect Superman for a few days due to constant editing from a WMF-banned editor? Thanks! --Ferien (talk) 15:58, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Could an administrator protect Talk:Superman as well? The vandals seem to be vandalizing that instead now. Thanks! —TypicalWikimedian (talk • contribs) 15:53, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

83.26.157.248

83.26.157.248 (talk · contribs) is continuously playing around with their talk page after being blocked. Please revoke talk page access. Thanks. —TypicalWikimedian (talk • contribs) 20:11, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

(Non-administrator observation) Talk page access revoked by Bsadowski1. --Ferien (talk) 07:54, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

2 pages that need protection

These two pages are being constantly targeted by LTA'er socks, so they should be protected:

• Jimin (singer, born 1995)
• BTS

Additionally, these pages may need to be create-protected:

• Suckelator
• Fuck Wikipedia

Thank you. —TypicalWikimedian (talk • contribs) 18:28, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

LTA

• Copyrightleft Infringesacrament (talk · contribs)

Please clean-up and check for sleepers. Trijnstel (talk) 09:26, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Protection for Wikipedia:Introduction

You probably know why.I am unable to keep up with the two vandals, so I request protection for this page. I'm surprised it isn't already 30/500 protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elytrian (talk • contribs)

This page is a test page for people to test their edits. Would defeat the purpose. The edits you reverted were not vandalism, we want people to make edits such as that there. There is a bot that regularly resets the page. -Djsasso (talk) 11:29, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Also, just so you know for future, we don't have 30/500 protection here. --Ferien (talk) 12:42, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Removal of deletion tag on Ezequiel Matthysse

Non-logged in users have made many edits to the above article. They are deleting the deletion notice at the top of the page.

This is probably the creator, who is getting around a global lock. See here and here.

Quick deletion may be allowed. The page is copied from an enwiki page. See here.

Can I ask an administrator to protect the page so the tag does not keep getting removed, or delete the page (QD-A3)

Thank you

Local Variable (talk) 14:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

 Editor note: The page has been deleted through a request for deletion. This request may be ignored. Local Variable (talk) 13:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion for semi-protection of Google Sites

Obvious from the article title, this page is about Google Sites. Although we have several IPs who want to write about Sesame Street with spam links. Therefore I would like to suggest semi-protection to this page for several months. I would like to hear about opinions from others. MathXplore (talk) 02:42, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Protected by Eptalon. --Ferien (talk) 07:15, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Confirmed protection, thank you for the response. MathXplore (talk) 07:26, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion for semi-protection of Reza Homami

Too stop people from recreating this article yet another time --Trade (talk) 00:38, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done @Trade: I don't think it has been created often enough to protect for that reason. It was created in May this year, but the time before that was last year in November. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:00, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism

@2600:387:6:80F:0:0:0:6F: has a history of vandalism on this Wikipedia. Today, he blanked my talk page out of nowhere. He also blanked another page. Just take a look at his contributions and figure out a way to make him less disruptive. —JTZegers (talk) 02:59, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Oh, he’s now vandalizing his own talk page. Revoke TPA!!! JTZegers (talk) 03:15, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@JTZegers: Blocked by DannyS712. Please report to WP:VIP, our dedicated vandalism reports page, in future and you may get a quicker response. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 08:44, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien and JTZegers: should I clear the warnings since he won't respond -- Kunjarpunch / [ t ] 15:37, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@Kunjarpunch: There's no need to clear any messages just because someone won't respond. Blanking talk pages is something that shouldn't really be done. --Ferien (talk) 15:38, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@Kunjarpunch:...and his edits show that he's clearly not here to build an encyclopedia. Obviously, I'm too inexperienced to be an admin, but he's demonstrated two major issues: vandalism and poor judgement. He's under the impression that black people are like gorillas, which is just racist and wrong. He knows he's under intense scrutiny yet he continues to vandalize those pages. This couldn't have gone on for much longer before it became a serious timesink. Good block, Danny.--JTZegers (talk) 15:43, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@DannyS712: You did a good job blocking that racist JTZegers He is indeed racist look this showes that he is explicitly racist and if you look at the top it is even worse -- Kunjarpunch / [ t ] 15:45, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@Kunjarpunch:, I was the one who caught him, so I guess I should get some credit too.--JTZegers (talk) 15:48, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, you should -- Kunjarpunch / [ t ] 15:49, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

The first time in history where I did something and no one threatened to block me.--JTZegers (talk) 15:50, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Can the W:WP:GRAVEDANCING stop? Darubrub (Let me know) 15:52, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

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 (change conflict)  There is nothing more for admins to do here. @Kunjarpunch and JTZegers: This is a relatively high traffic noticeboard so you are giving the vandal the attention they want or gravedancing. Please stop commenting on their behaviour, they are blocked. --Ferien (talk) 15:53, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien: I guess I celebrated too early. Cheers.--JTZegers (talk) 15:54, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Gylfi Sigurðsson

I'm an admin at en-Wiki. I've just placed a template on the talk page of en:Gylfi Sigurðsson and created an edit notice as Sigurðsson has been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences involving a minor. As such, the subject of the article comes under en:sub judice rules. Just a heads up so that admins can assess as to whether or not a similar course of action is needed here. Mjroots (talk) 18:41, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. We're probably a small enough wiki to avoid much disturbance here. Will add it to my watch list to monitor. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 20:31, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Impersonation case

• Darubrubrubrub (talk • contribs • CA • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log)
• Darubrub x 5 (talk • contribs • CA • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log)
• Darubrub x 6 (talk • contribs • CA • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log)
• BurburaD (talk • contribs • CA • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log)

These accounts were created for the purpose of making the english wiki admins distrust me and reset my standard offer. Can you please block them and prove it's not me? Thanks! Darubrub (Let me know) 18:06, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

@Darubrub: An en.wiki CU can assist you better. Leaderboard (talk) 18:14, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

@Leaderboard: I don't have TPA in en-wiki, so how am I supposed to do that? Darubrub (Let me know) 18:15, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

@Darubrub: Message an en.wiki CU from this wiki, for instance. Or use the UTRS system to get back TPA. It is likely that simple.wiki cannot see the data you need. Leaderboard (talk) 18:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

@Leaderboard: I am banned from UTRS until August. Do I go to Ponyo I guess? Darubrub (Let me know) 18:25, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

@Darubrub: I'm not sure - I would consider waiting till August. Other users here may be able to better assist you, but asking simple.wiki CU is not the way to go. Leaderboard (talk) 18:31, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

I think I'll try IRC. Darubrub (Let me know) 18:35, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Blocked all the accounts. --Ferien (talk) 18:42, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

As the IP suggested elsewhere, it was indeed Android 1123581321. --Bsadowski1 18:56, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ponyo: What do you mean by Block evasion in these accounts? Darubrub (Let me know) 18:58, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

All locked now SHB2000 (talk) 12:01, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Sockpuppets

I noticed some group of editors that were really similar (similar userpage, editing patterns). The editors first edit unrelated articles, then they edit something related to tech and companies, after which they stop editing. I suspect these might be socks that edited for promoting the articles.

• User:Raineisin
• User:Kaurrsti
• User:Viratnslin
• User:Meriayn
• User:Kainein
• User:Tenmthal

These were added after this first post was made

• User:Neiahlan
• User:Garestain
• User:Kaiunit
• User:Arosails
• User:Creainnia
• User:Derainstan

I also found two IPs that created company articles, which are probably socks too.

• User:92.10.27.29
• User:92.23.129.29

I only found these today, and there are probably more of these. Etoza (?) 15:56, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

There are indeed more of these. Unfortunately mostly all of them are stale, and beyond technical evidence it's the username style and editing behavior to match. I think all of the above are socks, though I don't currently see much benefit in blocking. If they edit again, please feel free to send it to RFCU as we'd have newer data to look at. Best, Vermont (talk) 03:13, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protection request; Donald Trump

There has been vandalism occurring on the Donald Trump page for several months. These edits have been mainly made by IP users.

A person with his political status is bound to be messed with. I am requesting a semi-protection on that page. Thank you :-) Kellis7 (talk) 15:13, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

I have semi-protected the page for two months (despite the fact that the bots do a good job at reverting graffitti edits). --Eptalon (talk) 16:32, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Mass Deletion of pages

I'd like to post this here to see if we can resolve this quickly without going back through RfD/QD tagging everything here. I'd like a mass deletion of the vast number of redirects created earlier today by 2A00:23C5:8D98:E201:6078:E3B7:FF89:2B8A based on the consenus that we do not need these pages that was discussed at this RfD. Also looks like it's probably a case of an LTA. There are a number of legitimate looking articles that should be excluded from this cleanup. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 01:39, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

To make a start, I just deleted the mass-created talk pages that had only a talk header. I would support deleting any "National <foo> of <country>" redirects that have no incoming links (which I suspect is at least the majority of these). --Auntof6 (talk) 06:24, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

I also support the mass deletion with the same condition as above. Note that the mass-creation of redirects about national things are still active.MathXplore (talk) 13:21, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

I support mass deletion, these don't appear to be useful. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 13:55, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

I would like just the redirects to be deleted. Darubrub (Let me know) 13:56, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done, per the consensus here and at RfD. These redirects were not helpful. --Ferien (talk) 14:28, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

There are a few more redirects that are not in the "National x of y" format, and I'll probably bring those to RfD as they are slightly outside the scope of the old RfD. Thanks for your help, looks good. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 20:25, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Could we also delete the redirects and talk pages from Special:Contributions/2A00:23C5:8D98:E201:50DC:D52A:1C7A:14DD? Darubrub (Let me know) 01:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't see a big problem with this user's contributions (at least the ones that haven't already been deleted). --Auntof6 (talk) 07:17, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Same behavior ongoing with 2A00:23C5:8D98:E201:872:510B:96C7:61FF.--Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 00:00, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Redirects deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:17, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Instead of redirects, now we have lists of national things made by Special:Contributions/2A00:23C5:8D98:E201:DD5C:BDC4:9237:2C99. I think this is close to what we discussed at here. MathXplore (talk) 12:24, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Just for record, I decided to take them to individual RfD discussions. Thank you for the attention. MathXplore (talk) 11:14, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

How long

How long does someone have to be to consider it LTA? LaugherJ5 Roger dat (talk) 02:12, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

What do you mean by LTA? Thegameshowlad (talk) 18:04, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

@Thegameshowlad: Long term abuser. Darubrub (Let me know) 18:14, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Edits in favour of a country?

The contributions by 185.135.96.2 seem to be an attempt at removing information about Turkish culture/similar? They've removed information from several pages, however I'm unsure if there's something that fits the warning policy for such. Fixing26 (talk) 18:22, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

It may come under removing content from pages and vandalism and potentially even racism if it’s being derogatory towards such. I would say a block is necessary, if I was in your shoes I’d give them a 7 day block. Thegameshowlad (talk) 18:25, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Temporary protection request

Can you temporarily protect the articles Tricolour and Dolma, because an IP 185.135.96.2 is constantly POV pushing and edit warring with other IP users and also administrators/rollbackers. Edit warring has occurred in these two articles before, presumably with the same IP user.

Multituberculata (talk) 20:14, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Both pages are semi-protected now--Eptalon (talk) 07:48, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Editing

There are many articles on Wikipedia that accuse Donald Trump of saying certain things. However, they can not be proved as true. The references are simply references to articles written by the news media. If these accusations can not be verified by a source other than an article written by someone who doesn't have the evidence to back it up, then the word allegedly should be added before the accusation. When I made this correction, I was immediately told that my edits were being reversed because non-English speaking people would not understand the word. If someone doesn't speak English, then they can look at Wiki translated to their language. I do not think anyone should be blamed for something that has not been verified. I am not a Trump fan, but I do respect fairness. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lcwaves (talk • contribs) 06:28, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Lcwaves: Thank you for voicing this concern. First, about the word "allegedly": the entire point of this wiki is to use simple language. Instead of using that word, you could rephrase the sentence to use simpler language. If I knew the exact sentence you're referring to, I might be able to suggest other wording.

As for using various news media sources to support claims of what someone said, Wikipedia has the concept of reliable sources. If a source is considered reliable, then we trust that what they say is true. Again, without knowing exactly what sources were being used to support the claim(s) you are talking about, I can't say anything more.

Thank you for wanting to keep Wikipedia honest. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

One of the ways to rephrase: He allegedly said that... -> Perhaps he said that.., Some people think that he said that... Other people do not agree. And if you think that this isn't true, but can't find a source, add a {{fact}} template.--Eptalon (talk) 07:47, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Protection request

Could you please protect George Reeves, which is getting vandalized immediately after the recent block expired? –Morneo06 (talk) 20:19, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

And also Talk:Travel which keeps getting vandalized. Morneo06 (talk) 21:21, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Both done. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:02, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Urgent SP

Please SP Indonesia the LTA is back and the proxy ip keeps getting globally blocked but they just hop onto another one immediately and re-add. Thanks! PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:35, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

(Non-administrator observation)  Done by Bsadowski1 PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 04:12, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

SP my talk

Can you SP my talk pages please? Getting vandalized. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 04:31, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Can someone do mine as well? SHB2000 (talk) 04:32, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

And me too! (LTA IS HORRIBLE) Elytrian - Talk 05:43, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Uhh, maybe a global sysop could fix my English one too? Elytrian - Talk 05:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Can you also do it "indef"? Once it expires, he'll come back again. SHB2000 (talk) 05:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Featured article?

Where did it go today? I think its Article 28 that you meant to put, not 25. Elytrian - Talk 06:11, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

PP Port Macquarie, New South Wales

Can someone protect Port Macquarie, New South Wales? Frequent edit warring over WMF banned user. SHB2000 (talk) 08:14, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Cann someone do Ballina, New South Wales as well? SHB2000 (talk) 08:20, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

RFPP for Talk:Pol Pot

Please semi-protection for Talk:Pol Pot as LTA GRP vandalism. --SCP-2000 (talk) 16:38, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Lurker note: Already protected by Eptalon EpicPupper (talk) 19:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

RFPP for First Fleet

Please semiprot this article, extensive IP vandalism and unconstructive edits. EpicPupper (talk) 18:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Lurker note: Already protected by Eptalon EpicPupper (talk) 19:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Main page

Can somebody please move Main Page/Article 28 to Main Page/Article 25? It will fix the broken main page selected article section. Thanks. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 18:29, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

I've moved the page accordingly. Please let me know if there's anything I may have missed. Hiàn (talk) 18:57, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Looks great to me, thanks. Just for everybody's info, you can think of it like a deck of cards that that main page just cycles through. When one card is deleted, it's like pulling a card from the middle of the deck, leaving a gap in the main page cycle. Taking a card off the top of the deck and putting it back into the middle of the deck fills the gap, and the main page works well again. Thanks! --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 19:20, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Protect Democratic Kampuchea

Please protect Democratic Kampuchea, multiple cases of vandalism. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 05:24, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

(Non-administrator observation)  Done by Bsadowski1 at 05:14 UTC. SHB2000 (talk) 05:29, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

The talk page is protected and the page isn't, i'd say protect the page as well. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 06:04, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Thegameshowlad

I'm concerned about the behavior of Thegameshowlad (talk · contribs). He is continuing to be rude in edit summaries, and is even threatening to call the police now. He's also done many other things wrong (shown by the talk page messages he's received). As he's already indeffed on the English Wikipedia, I feel this could be a WP:ONESTRIKE issue. Cheers, J991 16:26, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

I am trying to defend myself. I haven't been rude in edit summaries since you warned me. I am fine please don't take action. — Cheers TGSL (Leave me a message) 16:29, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

According to WP:ONESTRIKE a warning doesn't actually have to be given. Anyway, it's best to leave this for the admins to deal with now. J991 16:38, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

I was coming here to begin this discussion myself. The user's comments at RfCU were inappropriate. Additionally, less than a week ago they were asked not to create an RFA without first consulting with the individual they are nominating, and instead they appear to have done to exact same thing today. This feels like a case of Wikipedia:Competence is required and violations of WP:ONESTRIKE. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 20:04, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

I've provided the appropriate response on the RFCU page, Angela's talk page, and left an only warning message on TGSL's talk page. Please consider the matter closed for now unless the community is requesting a community ban. Operator873 ^connect 20:23, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Implement One Strike on User:Thegameshowlad

Please see [[1]] (you may need to look in history) where he in effect pushed yet another personal attack on an ip by saying “…I know you are mentally ill…” I’d also like to request a CU check on him once blocked for any sleepers or other accounts he may have created based on his history and some behavioral things I’ve seen. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PotsdamLamb (talk • contribs) 10:03, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

The IP address is clearly George Reeves Person, by the way. --Bsadowski1 12:23, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

The user has now been CU blocked, so the matter is closed. --IWI (talk) 13:47, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Bsadowski1, was their account really hacked by that LTA IP vandal? ~ Hulged (talk) 13:52, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

SP my talk?

Please? An LTA and SHB2000 are edit warring over there. Elytrian - Talk 11:07, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

@Elytrian:Semi-protected for a week. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:15, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

SP request

Could an admin semi-protect Mohammad Amanullah and Sanjay Chakravarti. Multiple IPs and new users have been removing the RfD at top. Fixing26 (talk) 01:34, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

SP and rollback on Animal

Hey, could someone SP the page? Also you might have to rollback quite a few versions. Elytrian - Talk 02:50, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Elytrian, rollback done. I'd suggest you use RedWarn or Twinkle. These make things easy. ~ Hulged (talk) 02:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Use both. But I thought rollback was for, well, rollbackers. Elytrian - Talk 03:07, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

@Hulged: Wait where's red warn in my gadgets? Could you tell me? (I use VandalWarner and Twinkle). Elytrian - Talk 03:09, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Elytrian, to use RedWarn, add mw.loader.load('//simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:JJPMaster/RedWarn.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript') to your common.js page. With thanks to JJPMaster who made it available here :-) ~ Hulged (talk) 03:29, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Abella Danger

If you look at Abella Danger's page history, you can see a history full of vandalism and reverts towards an unregistered user which in turn is an "IP hopping vandal". It appears if we block this unregistered user, they'll just hop onto another unregistered account and continue vandalizing that same page. They even vandalized my talk page. Is it possible to SP Abella Danger's page to stop the ongoing vandal and revert cycle? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:29, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

The vandalism has stopped now, so there's no need to protect at this time. --Ferien (talk) 21:38, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

SP 'Twinkie'

Can somebody SP this page? Edit warring against a IP sock-puppeteer for spelling of 'flavo(u)r'. Elytrian - Talk 05:14, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

(I'm not in the edit war btw) Elytrian - Talk 05:15, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

(Non-administrator observation)  Done by Eptalon PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 05:40, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

I semi-protected the page, and blocked a few of the IPs (the ones that clearly vandalised, and were unable to agree). --Eptalon (talk) 05:41, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

@Eptalon: needs to be protected again. SHB2000 (talk) 03:42, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Protection request

Please protect Khmer Rouge‎ due to exzessive vandalism by GRP. Morneo06 (talk) 21:48, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done by Eptalon --Ferien (talk) 21:36, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Hermione Granger protection

After its previous protection expired, it has been the target of vandalism by multiple users again. I think protection might be needed again. Fixing26 (talk) 03:47, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done by Hiàn --Ferien (talk) 21:35, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Protection request

Hi there, could you semi-protect User:Fixing26/RfDs, User:Fixing26/RfDs/Nominated, User:Fixing26/RfDs/Delete, User:Fixing26/RfDs/Other? Fixing26 (talk) 15:25, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

and Joseph Stalin — Cheers TGSL (Leave me a message) 16:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Joseph Stalin got protected for a day and Fixing26, I have semi-protected all those pages indefinitely. --Ferien (talk) 21:22, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Request for page protection: Talk:Joseph Stalin

Hello adminis, can Talk:Joseph Stalin please be semi protected to reduce the vandalism. See it's history, there is alot of vandalism going on. ~ Hulged (talk) 05:54, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done by Eptalon --Ferien (talk) 21:22, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

PP. Talk:Lavrenty Beria

Thanks. SHB2000 (talk) 08:48, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Was  done by Bsadowski1 for a day. Please let us know if you think it needs protection again. --Ferien (talk) 21:24, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

SP

Can I get SP on Black people please? Also on African Americans. It is constantly vandalized and I am working on the refs and other issues but it keeps getting vandalized. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:21, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Temporary protection request

Can you temporarily protect the articles Flag, Yogurt, Country and Baklava, because an IP 212.108.146.62 is constantly POV pushing?

I suspect that 212.108.146.62 is the same IP 185.135.96.2 who is POV pushing in the same pattern in the same and related articles. The IP has a history of POV pushing and edit warring with other IP users and also administrators/rollbackers. Please check the log and POV edits of this user, and temporarily protect the articles this IP has POV edited on.

They also include Tricolour, Dolma, Shambali and Doner kebab, the former two articles which are temporarily protected until August 7. Can you extend the temporary protection of the first two articles and temporarily protect the latter two articles as well.

This IP will likely start erasing sourced information, POV pushing and edit warring again, once the temporary protections end.

Multituberculata (talk) 09:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Here we go again

This is the same lta that vandalizes Khmer Rouge, Pol Pot and Democratic Kampuchea. Please protect Cambodian genocide as well.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cambodian_genocide&diff=7705607&oldid=7093927

ColorfulSmoke (talk) 14:30, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Rollbacked the edit. Darubrub (Let me know) 14:41, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Could any admin create a edit-filter to slow down this lta. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 18:40, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

They have a good one at Wikibooks; any admin here could ask one of the admins there. Antandrus (talk) 18:49, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Cambodian genocide and Democratic Kampuchea have been protected. I don't see a need to protect the other two at this time.

ColorfulSmoke and Antandrus, we do currently have an edit filter to deal with this LTA. I don't want to say too much onwiki about the abuse filter stuff per WP:BEANS, but I believe that what this editor does on Wikibooks is different to what he does here at the moment. Therefore, the abuse filter on Wikibooks may not be as helpful here. --Ferien (talk) 21:33, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, over there I notice he targets Chess, but there's no clear target on simple. SHB2000 (talk) 05:39, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

pp Crimes against humanity for a week

Thanks SHB2000 (talk) 05:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

The vandalism seems to have stopped now, so protection is not necessary at this time. --Ferien (talk) 17:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Protection request

Can we please semi-protect Hermione and List of Harry Potter movie characters for a short period of time? Continued vandalism, likely from one individual, on various IPs. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 01:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done I also blocked the most recent IP to vandalize these. Recently I reverted a lot of edits to many other Potter-related pages by someone who apparently doesn't like the Hermione character. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:09, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

I believe that this is also an IP hopping vandal, so might not be a bad idea to block the IP range that was found by SCP-2000 SHB2000 (talk) 03:43, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Deletion review

Hello all! (On this matter I wrote Chenzw on the talk page, but this user did not write anything back for a month. This administrator almost did not make other edits here for a month plus too. Please look at (https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Archive_4#Hienadz_Shutau). The deletion review discussion had almost zero comments. As a result of that, it was forgotten with no decision. I believe the page would be undeleted. What to do? -- pr12402, 10 August 2021

Hey Pr12402, I'll look now. It may be easier for you to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 19:06, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi pr12402. See Eptalon's comment on the page. The original deletion was ok, as the consensus of the request for deletion was that the page should be deleted. If you want, you can create it again with sources to prove notability, although this will not stop it going to RfD again. The article would likely not be very similar to the original page deleted, so it would not be eligible for G4 deletion. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 19:14, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Daniel Bryer

Please protect it from being created it is being recreated over and over --90.224.199.219 (talk) 15:47, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Protection is rarely used here unless its admins are overwhelmed trying to stop some vandalism. I am sure each admin who has deleted it has considered whether or not it should be protected. -Djsasso (talk) 16:20, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Reporting twinkle's bug

Need attention from interface administrators.

Problem I faced

When I clicked on ‘vandalism’ link, it redirects me on a page titled [Page title]&twinklerevert=vand. Here [Page title] is the title of the targeted page.

Please test youself

1. Enable twinkle gadget from Special:Preferences
2. Go to Special:Contributions/ইয়াহিয়া (this is my alternative account).
3. Try to revert first edit by clicking on [vandalism]

Regards. --Yahya (talk) 20:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

I will take a look. I will let you know twinkle is very much beta here. -Djsasso (talk) 20:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

French communes

Looks to me from the time stamps that the user is working with an automated program of some kind. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:55, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

This is probably related to Wikipedia:Simple talk/Archive 132#Gay Yong Hernandez and systematic creation of stubs from IPs. --Minorax (talk) 11:16, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

He was warned he would be blocked if he was doing it again. I will look at the time stamps and block as appropriate. -Djsasso (talk) 15:15, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Blocked for 31 hours. If this doesn't finally get his attention I will block for a much longer period. -Djsasso (talk) 15:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

I have told him, serverla times, also in German; I have also let him know that getting a bot approved isn't that much work. --Eptalon (talk) 12:20, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

It's not likely such a bot will be approved, since the community seems to be opposed to bot creations of articles, as am I. --IWI (talk) 12:25, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Additional automated editing is now taking place from 104.243.163.15 Naleksuh (talk) 23:57, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

I am not sure why you directed to the block page instead of the contribution page as that needs to be investigated first. But yeah, it seems suspicious with the 1 minute timestamp gap. Darubrub (Let me know) 00:10, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

And blocked. Ouch that sucks to see that to a good editor. Darubrub (Let me know) 00:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

┌─────────────────────────────────┘
I have blocked the IP address for 31 hours and GYH's account indefinitely, since he has shown no sign of understanding that using unauthorised scripts is not allowed. This is not the outcome I wanted, and I take no pleasure in this action, but he left me with no choice. Hopefully he can now come to an understanding on this matter, because I too wish for him to continue editing here. Best regards, --IWI (talk) 00:49, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

RfD counter off by about 7...

Just wanted ot let you know, our RfD counter is off by about 7. --Eptalon (talk) 12:24, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Fixed. There were a bunch of discussions that had not been properly transcluded into the rfd page. Many of them are passed the closing date. I'll leave it to an admin to decide if they want to just close them, or to extend them now that they are visible to the community.--Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 15:14, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Additional and extended protection request

The same IP 185.135.96.2 has struck again.

He has vandalized with POV content in the articles of Azerbaijan, Republic of Artsakh, Country (which this IP vandalized before) and New York (state).

In addition for a temporary protection request for the articles above, the articles Flag, Tricolour, Dolma, Rose water, New York City, Pita, Shambali and Doner kebab, which this IP vandalized before, should be temporarily protected as well. (The New York City article is vandalized frequently by other IP users as well.)

Multituberculata (talk) 13:57, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

PP for

Indonesia and Its talk

Nuon chea and talk page

List of Harry Potter characters

African Americans and its talk

Disney+

Blatant Vandalism by LTAs Elytrian - Talk 04:25, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Someone clearly doesn't like the Hermione character... SHB2000 (talk) 11:53, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Most don't have enough edits to warrant protection. We typically don't do protections unless editors can't keep up with reverts/blocks. A few already were protected awhile back. -Djsasso (talk) 11:58, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Unable to warn a user

I just tried to warn User:MrDanielBryer for making test edits, but I couldn't create the talk page for the following reason: You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: The title "User talk:MrDanielBryer" has been banned from creation. It matches the following blacklist entry: .*(?i)Dan.*Bry.*. Would it be possible that an admin creates the talk page so that communicating with the user is possible? –Morneo06 (talk) 20:01, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Now he removes the RfD tag on Luxembourgers multiple times and threatens to go to court if an specific article will get deleted here. Morneo06 (talk) 21:33, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

@Morneo06: Thanks for this report. I have indeffed him for making legal threats, and left him a blocking message. I don't see a need for warnings now that he's indeffed. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:50, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Would a global lock be needed for legal threats? SHB2000 (talk) 01:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

No point until x-wiki abuse happens. Darubrub (Let me know) 01:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

NLT isn't specifically a global policy, and it seems they've already sort of rescinded it, even prior to their block .Regardless, it doesn't seem they're here to contribute constructively. Vermont (talk) 15:33, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

PP for

Superman! The GRP is back! Yay! /s Ely - Talk 15:21, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Not grp, but just someone who likes emojis. Blocked anyway. Darubrub (Let me know) 15:22, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

There was someone vandalising Superman but it was just one IP, not GRP, and so protection isn't needed at this time. --Ferien (talk) 15:24, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

RfD page

I noticed a couple of quirks on this page.

1. In the rules it states “this is not a vote” and refers to it as a “suggestion” but the template for creating a new one adds “ Please discuss this request below, but keep in mind that you shouldn't vote on everything and that there may be options other than "keep" or "delete", such as merging.

• Maybe fix the template so it doesn’t say vote but suggestion instead?

1. It puts the entire page in the category of RfDs that succeeded. I know this is from the section where closed RfDs are put on the page. Is there a way (perhaps commenting out) the addition of the category so it does not get added to that specific category. There are active discussions on that page too but I feel if we can get it removed then it helps clean up categories. Thanks PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

That line is actually the line that explains the suggestion you are talking about. As for what you are trying to say about the categories I am a bit confused. What is being put in the succeeded category? New ones? I don't see that that is the case, they are put in a category of active discussions. -Djsasso (talk) 14:02, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Because I wasn’t pinged I am just now seeing this. It’s at the very bottom of the page as a category. So I’m not sure if something changed but it now shows in both rfd that succeeded and rfd that did not. Since this page is a mix of both would it be better to have either on this page and just leave it at administration? PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 09:09, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh you mean the main Rfd page, not the individual pages. Yes, that changes automatically based on the discussions that are in the closed section. It isn't an issue, it is just how things work. -Djsasso (talk) 11:14, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah ok. I was just curious because it puts that page in both categories. What about the template? Can that wording be changed to match everything else (as described in the first statement). PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 17:14, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Revdel request

Please revdelete the following revisions due to addition of copyrighted material: 1, 2. –Morneo06 (talk) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Revdel and protection requests

Revision deletion is still needed for several racist contributions by blocked IP users: [2], [3], and [4]. The pages African Americans and Black people also need protection and a good dose of revdel. For background, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Hide_these_racist_edits. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 08:18, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Justin DUACE

There is something up with this user. The grammar on their user page is way off, they are stating they have patroller rights, which they do not, they are focussed completely on one article and it is up for RfD, of which they did not correctly add their comments causing a run on sentence, they threatened HockeyCat and now they are posting on my page to not delete things. I am wondering if maybe a CU is needed on this. I wanted to get admin thoughts on this behavior. Thanks. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:12, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: Am I missing something, because I don't think Justin DUACE ever posted to your talkpage? Are you confusing them with User:MMW world? AnApple47 (talk) 18:23, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

I think they may be one in the same. :) (but yes MM posted to my page) PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:24, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough. AnApple47 (talk) 18:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

What are your thoughts? PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:29, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

They do seem to be related enough and the fact that they were both editing on mobile is suspicious. I'm not very familiar with this kind of thing, so you might want to wait for an admin's opinion. AnApple47 (talk) 18:41, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok just wanted to make sure I wasn't reading too much into it as I see a lot of blocked IPs and such on the RfD for this too. Thanks for your thoughts. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:43, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Both blocked as socks of the others socks in that Rfd. -Djsasso (talk) 19:14, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Djsasso Thanks! I was not sure if I should have done a CU. I think next time when I see it that bad I will just do that even though I know you can't do anything about IPs but too many similarities. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 19:17, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

New Stub

Hello admins! Would you be ok if I created a stub for flowers or something close to it? There are some articles that deal with flowers and such that are stubs but the best I can do is just the standard stub, but I think getting these a little more refined can help with putting them in a list for articles to be worked on. I would like to learn to do this, if someone could walk me through it. One example is Mustard plant. Maybe a different word instead of flowers like maybe Plants-stub? PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:15, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Bring it up over on the Wikipedia talk:Simple Stub Project. It has a bunch of rules of thumb that we say should be the case before a new stub is created. Things like there needs to be over 1000 articles already that would need the stub. There needs to be multiple editors already working on expanding flower stubs etc. -Djsasso (talk) 20:32, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Haha I don't think we need it now. I forgot about Biology-stub which works for me. Thanks for making that change @Djsasso! PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:39, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Yeah I went to the page after I replied to you and was like oh...this doesn't even have the biology stub on it. But yeah plants etc fall under the biology-stub. -Djsasso (talk) 20:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

My biology in high school was supposed to disect a frog, I didn't want to. I am more a history person. I think plants got covered in middle school but that was a very very very long time ago. :-) PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:58, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

"Projects"

I see we are into another bout of self-announced "projects". One reason we do not have projects is that they distract attention from what we do onto things some think we ought to be doing. We do not have enough people interested to make a proper job of them, and they are just ways of individual editors creating their own sand-pits to play in. Subpages of a userpages are meant to be used to make articles for the wiki, not to evade our collective decisions as to what the wiki should be doing. Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:29, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Not sure if you are talking about Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Women South Asia/2021 but that isn't really a self announced project. It is a WMF wide initiative to expand articles on women in Asia for the month of September. Something all language wikis should be take part in. Though only editors that are interested of course. If you are just talking about random wikiprojects in userspace then yes, there is pretty much no purpose in creating those as they are never really used and mostly just end up being a place to do busy work. However, in saying that, they usually are in service to creating articles in a particular subject which is the goal of the wiki so as long as they aren't disruptive there is a reason we say to do it in userspace. -Djsasso (talk) 11:35, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

I understand the concern here. So yeah, this is a foundation wide effort for the month. But then what? We can hope to take part and create some articles, but once the effort of the month is over, is there any difference between this and any other Wikiproject? There might need to be a line laid out. Clearly we should encourage the project as it is ongoing, I think the question is what are we left with. When does it become proper to move it to userspace? As soon as the month ends? Maybe we need to give this some time to breathe, let it run the time and hope for participation, and then decide how to move on. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk

By "self-announced" I meant the ones on user sub-pages. We differ from En wiki in not having WikiProjects and all that entails. That is one reason we get users trying to set up similar structures on their sub-pages. Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:37, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Typically with the big ones like this we leave them in Wikipedia space and then each year we change the redirect to the subpage for the new years effort. -Djsasso (talk) 15:38, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Extend block

Please extend the block of 90. something (its an IP blocked by Auntof6) from 31 hours to at least a week. I do not feel that is sufficient. Also at least 24 hours SP Simple Talk so a sock doesn't vandalize. Apply to VIP too. Ely - Talk 07:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

 Comment: Agree Hockeycatcat (talk) 07:46, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Hockeycatcat and Elytrian: There's no need to extend the block to a week. All of the vandalism happened within 20 minutes. In most cases, a 31 hour block is enough for the first block.

Simple talk was vandalised once today, and once yesterday. We typically protect pages when vandalism is at a much higher level. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 09:09, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

I don't agree @Ferien... Also, what do we do to users when an admin isn't online? I had to literally just spam undo and rollback for quite a while. Ely - Talk 16:39, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

A couple things, we rarely protect pages unless its not possible to keep up the undoing, and in those cases it typically has to be many different accounts/ips hitting the same page. If there isn't an admin around you go and find a steward and they can help. -Djsasso (talk) 17:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

To basically add onto Djsasso, other reasons pages are protected are:

1. socking
2. user pages at user's request

Because after all, this is the encyclopedia anyone can edit (except vandals, LTAs and spambots). Page protection is not something we like to do, but have to if disruption happens. SHB2000 (talk) 05:32, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Elytrian: you can always see if someone with rollback rights is online by asking on simple talk hey anyone with rollback rights available? Someone will probably respond as there are a lot of us that have that right and we can mass revert the vandalism in one click. Almost all of us watch that page and get emails on any changes. Thanks! PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} (Pronouns: He, him, his) 02:09, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Protection and oversight

Protect Joseph Stalin please. Please also oversight the last gazillion versions so Ljupco doesn't use the histories on other websites. Ely - Talk 03:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. I don't think either of these actions are necessary at this time. The vandalism isn't all that overwhelming as to require protection, and the content isn't really worthy of deletion in my opinion. In any case, we know this individual's editing pattern, we know they are going to continue, so our course of action should continue to be revert, block, and ignore. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 01:51, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

It doesn't need oversight, but please do not post oversight requests on wiki and use the email address in future at WP:OVERSIGHT. --IWI (talk) 12:26, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

The oversight doesn't have any personal info. Its just spamming by Ljupco that he uses as wikipedia-sucks.co Ely - Talk 10:06, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Then I don't think that needs oversight. Just revdels (which can be seen only by admins, stewards and WMFOffice) SHB2000 (talk) 10:25, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

But in saying that, it does need rev del otherwise he'll tend to go onto another project and paste the links to the diffs SHB2000 (talk) 10:26, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

New clearing house for cross-wiki spam

Hi,

We have created Wikiproject:Antispam in order to better coordinate between Wikimedia projects when fighting against cross-wiki promotion, covert advertising and undisclosed paid edits. If you are interested by these subjects and you want to become a point of contact for the Simple English Wikipedia, you can add your name on the Contacts tab of the project. MER-C (talk) 19:17, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Please ban the following text

[[File:2015_WNBR_Brighton_4.jpg|left|thumb]] [[File:Beach_nudism.jpg|center|thumb]] [[File:Before_trimming.jpg|right|thumb]] [[File:Circonsis_1.jpg|left|thumb]] [[File:DSCN2419_(18815608415).jpg|center|thumb]] [[File:Dad_with_daughter_2.jpg|right|thumb]] [[File:Decalotté.jpg|left|thumb]] [[File:Fesses.jpg|center|thumb]] [[File:Frisch_rasiert.jpg|right|thumb]] [[File:HPIM1276.JPG|left|thumb]] [[File:Fimosi.jpg|center|thumb]] [[File:Low_and_tight.jpg|right|thumb]]

The LTA copy pasts this same text over and over again. Ely - Talk 18:09, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I have taken measures to detect such edits, but I am not sure we actually saw them. I don't remember deleting an article with a number of sexually-explicit images recently. --Eptalon (talk) 08:55, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Well... I posted this over 2 weeks ago. 💠Ely - Talk💠 09:05, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Temporary protection request

Can you temporarily protect the articles Flag, Tricolour, Doner kebab, Yogurt, Country, Baklava, Republic of Artsakh, Shambali and Dolma because the IPs 212.108.146.62 and 185.135.96.2 are constantly POV pushing?

I suspect that 212.108.146.62 and 185.135.96.2 are the same person, because the POV pushing is in the same pattern in the same and related articles. The IP has a history of POV pushing and edit warring with other IP users and also administrators/rollbackers. Please check the log and POV edits of this user, and temporarily protect the articles this IP has POV edited on.

The articles Flag, Tricolour and Dolma were temporarily protected until August 7, but has been vandalized again by the same IP. Can you temporarily protect all these articles again?

This IP starts erasing sourced information, POV pushing and edit warring again, once the temporary protections end.

This is the third time I put a protection request, but no action is being taken.

Multituberculata (talk) 16:53, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

pp Twinkie

again... SHB2000 (talk) 06:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Võ Tuấn Kiệt and La Ngoc Hung

Please delete these cross-wiki spam pages. Thanks in advance. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 09:11, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh Place a quick deletion tag which would get it done quicker SHB2000 (talk) 10:27, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: I did, but that tag was removed. Since 3RR vio may lead to a block, I could not revert anymore. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 10:30, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry for not looking into that. But 3RR does not apply when reverting spam or vandalism. SHB2000 (talk) 10:37, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Tag removing can't be count as vandalism/spam, or does the policy here allow that? Anyway, thank you for your help. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 11:18, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh The page is deleted. But if you faced any of such situations in future when you fear 3RR, then simply rewrite (simply add again) it instead of revert. Regards! Haoreima (talk) 16:32, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

I will. Thanks. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 17:08, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Problem user

Ashikmridha04 Is advertising himself at Ashik Mridha and he is continuing to remove the QD template that I have placed. Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 09:39, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Hockeycatcat I saw an article like writings in his user page! Haoreima (talk) 16:28, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Haoreima I have seen that too, but I’m not sure if it is against policy or not. It’s not in the main space, so no members of the public can see it unless they somehow specifically land on his user page. Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 02:32, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

The username is quite an obvious giveaway. SHB2000 (talk) 02:34, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

I might be confused, but aren't users allowed to state their true identity if they want to? Or is there an issue that he might be impersonating someone? It's one thing not to have an article about him but if he wishes to have a short user page about himself, I don't see the harm. Blissyu2 (talk) 12:40, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Page Protection

Please Protect Help:Change conflict's History page witnesses that the page needs protection Thank you 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 13:48, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

It appears that the IP is vandalising on numerous wikis, so waiting for an admin to block and then stewards to globally block the IP. SHB2000 (talk) 13:53, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

That's right. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 16:13, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Page destroyed

Hello, a vandal has recently destroyed Template:Infobox website, and I cannot recover it, I get the message "Syntax error in JSON". Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 16:06, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Hmmm.... Gimme a minute --Derpdart56 (talk) 16:09, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Page is shot to hell, can't copy-paste revert--Derpdart56 (talk) 16:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

 Temporarily Fixed[1][2] Please Revert it if you think i made mistake Thank you 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 16:18, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Sakura emad. I tried importing the page but yeah, it was completely broken... --Ferien (talk) 16:20, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

the Warning message showed that the error was on Documentation page and after the revision it was back to what it was before. Thank you 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 16:22, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien: You almost had it. Didn't look like it worked because the vandals edit was newer than the edit you imported over. You needed to roll back to the edit that you had imported over so that it would be the newest edit. I have fixed it up now so that its on the newest version. -Djsasso (talk) 03:54, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

I tried doing the same too (and left a message on its talk page). It's why you don't leave high traffic templates unprotected. Can someone indef protect that page? SHB2000 (talk) 01:39, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Harry Potter LTA is back

Title. Please protect those pages SHB2000 (talk) 01:38, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: The process is that we protect when the vandalism is frequent enough that it's hard to keep up with, and I haven't seen it that bad so far. I have some of the pages on my watchlist, so I take care of them when I see them vandalized. So, not going to protect at this time. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:58, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

When I wrote that message, I believe they were going on but they seemed to have stopped now. Probably doesn't need protection at this stage. SHB2000 (talk) 03:25, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

There is a limited number of articles that mention Hermione, so they stop after they hit them all. And it's not as hard to revert it all as they may think. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:50, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I bet they don't know that a tool called rollback existed ;-) SHB2000 (talk) 05:00, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

SHB, WP:BEANS has been opened. 💠Ely - Talk💠 05:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Rollback is something that is quite open and public (even tags it in your edit summaries), unlike filters. SHB2000 (talk) 05:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Doesn't understand what is good faith

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In good faith, I was trying to suggest User:SHB2000 not to say harsh words and hate speech on others, no matter how they did wrong. But he's not going to understand what I am trying to say. I did some more time only if he rectifies, but that's of no help. First, he said this after which I try to stop him. After some conversation, he finally said that he is not wrong and he will stand for what he had said. He has good self confidence of his actions. Dear Admins! Please try to stop him from giving such hate speech, either by good counseling or what is required according to wikipedia policies and guidelines! Regards! Haoreima (talk) 06:02, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

My question is, do you actually understand what GRP does? I said that he went quiet, and there's nothing with that SHB2000 (talk) 06:04, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Also, please explain how those words were "hate speech". All I said was that I wished GRP could get some help. In your mind, is that what you call "hate speech". SHB2000 (talk) 06:09, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Is is this a humble speech? Haoreima (talk) 06:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

There's a fine line between "hate speech" and speech that is "not humble". Again, do you know what GRP does to grasp the context out of my comment? SHB2000 (talk) 06:17, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

We are talking about a vandal banned from pretty much every WMF thing imaginable. It's more of a shoot first, ask questions later kind of deal. Derpdart56 (talk) 13:18, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Very much agree. Although he's more a harasser than a vandal, but still... he's WMF banned. SHB2000 (talk) 13:36, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I don't know if good faith applies in general to this guy but the comment SHB made wasn't exactly offensive. Derpdart56 (talk) 13:41, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I personally don't think one would need to assume good faith with this guy although offensive comments are discouraged when talking about him (otherwise, he'll spam your email as what he did to me 5 months back). Although I don't see how my comments were offensive, and finally I've someone else reassure me :) (but what really takes the cake here is Haoreima calling it "hate speech" and saying "I need counseling"). SHB2000 (talk) 13:58, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

What I am concerning is not about the person who was banned in the WMF, but about the speech of "User:SHB2000", at this. It's not fair to see. Well, let's wait for an administrator's review! Regards! Haoreima (talk) 14:00, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

When it comes to GRP/Ljupco? Not really. Besides, all SHB said was "I hope he gets some help." What's so bad about that? Derpdart56 (talk) 14:04, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I would assume you shouldn't give him any attention. (also Haoreima, please read up on who we're talking about. Derpdart56 (talk) 14:01, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

This section is initiated by me. And what you were discussing is somewhat irrelevant. I ain't concerning on the banned user. So, please focus on the topic. Haoreima (talk) 14:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Please quote the entire speech, not segments! And please be careful! Haoreima (talk) 14:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

But the banned user is relavent to the conversation. Derpdart56 (talk) 14:08, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

See! Here, I am drawing admins' attention. And please do not distract the attention. I have already told you that I started this topic here, focusing only User:SHB2000's speech and not on the banned user. The discussion about the banned user was started by you two, not I. So, please stop discussion about the irrelevant guys here. And let me wait for an admin's review. Regards! Haoreima (talk) 14:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Alright... Derpdart56 (talk) 14:12, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes and my speech was about the WMF banned user. Now all you've done indirectly is get an innocent person who's contributed to this thread to not post anything on this thread. And again, I stand for my words there. SHB2000 (talk) 14:20, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I did say he was relevant. Derpdart56 (talk) 14:28, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Yeah that comment was for Haoreima who said Ljupco's not relevant and that my speech was problematic. Anyway, he seems active on Commons (had a half an hour edit war with him just then on commons.) SHB2000 (talk) 14:31, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I mean, the comments might not have been the kindest, sure but they were kind of honest. Derpdart56 (talk) 14:43, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

So honestly, I doubt these comments were offensive with regard to their intended recipient. @Haoreima. Derpdart56 (talk) 15:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien Hi, can you please settle this? Derpdart56 (talk) 15:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

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Hello everyone. The diff that Haoreima showed does not show incivility towards the editor mentioned, in my opinion. This editor (w:WP:LTA/GRP) is indeed one who has been harassing Wikipedians for many years, and has been editing despite his more recent WMF ban. However, it is probably best not to talk about him so much onwiki; blocking, reverting and ignoring (in that order) is always the best strategy with this editor. If there are no admins, ignore but revert later. Reverting many times increases the visiblility of the vandalism. And, talking about him is not the best idea, because that's not ignoring. So whilst I don't think the diff that Haoreima shows is incivility, can we please try and talk about GRP less? Thanks. --Ferien (talk) 16:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima, SHB2000, and Derpdart56: <- Pings --Ferien (talk) 16:08, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I am not talking about the banned user. I am talking about "User:SHB2000" talking about the mental condition of a user, whom he had no good relation. What I am trying to say is that it's not civil. We can't say that it's not uncivil. It's against the WP:POLITE. Haoreima (talk) 16:23, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Ferien. I didn't see any uncivil intent. Derpdart56 (talk) 16:29, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima ping Derpdart56 (talk) 16:45, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

And why would I be polite to somebody who harasses me? 💠Ely - Talk💠 16:47, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

That was kind of my point. Derpdart56 (talk) 16:47, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Well, if someone's being uncivil to you, you should never go down to their level and be uncivil back. The rules are not "You can be uncivil if someone's being uncivil to you", they clearly say "Be civil", all the time. Ferien (talk) 16:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Good point. Derpdart56 (talk) 16:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

So, you guys, do you mean that "a person saying about another person having mental condition inflicting pains on others" is a "civil speech"? By saying "not uncivil" means "civil". Right! Do you mean that? Haoreima (talk) 16:55, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: @Ferien agreed with you... 💠Ely - Talk💠 16:57, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Haoreima, there's a difference between "not uncivil" and "civil", which I've already explained above. SHB2000 (talk) 01:19, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien and Elytrian: You don't need to be "polite", but you also shouldn't be uncivil nor impolite with him. You don't need to give him respect, but at the same time not be disrespectful with him. Kinda something neutral. SHB2000 (talk) 01:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

"talking about the mental condition of a user, whom he had no good relation"

You mean, empathising someone's mental condition was uncivil? And despite how much GRP hates me, to be honest, I'm lost for words here. SHB2000 (talk) 01:15, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

I've always tried to deny him, although I do talk a little bit about him. Now I only brought that up because Sakura emad tried to stop an edit war between myself and GRP, although they didn't know much about him which was completely okay (the barnstar was for trying to stop an edit war, at least from their perspective). SHB2000 (talk) 22:33, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Well, there are other ways to tell a user, without giving them attention onwiki. --Ferien (talk) 06:15, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

True. But Haoreima has just given him a lot of attention by starting this thread. I've seen many people talk about him on enwiki or on other projects, and nothing too bad about it, although it does go against WP:DENY. SHB2000 (talk) 06:27, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

This is the fourth time I am saying that I am not talking about the banned user here, I am concerning only at SHB2000's way of describing another user (whether that user is vandal or normal). It's a very bad thing to speak like that, mentioning something like mental condition, causing inflicting pains, etc. These aren't good words to describe a person in the on wiki. Haoreima (talk) 07:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

And this is the umpteenth time you've been told that context matters and my comments were not uncivil. While my original comment wouldn't have grabbed attention, all you've done is now give him attention. The context matters. SHB2000 (talk) 07:38, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

This thread is going nowhere but around in circles I am going to archive it. SHB2000's comments do not rise to the level where they are at issue. Haoreima, the banned user matters because of context. You can't look at SHB2000's comments without also considering what they were about. I suggest you drop the stick and walk away. -Djsasso (talk) 03:48, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

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